The day you get cut out of the economy

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Hotz argues that AI frontier labs will inevitably move to capture more economic value by vertically integrating and cutting out the application layer, API customers, and eventually most human workers. He contends that in a non-growth economy, companies must take larger shares rather than grow the pie, and AI labs will pursue market segmentation and coordinated pricing to maximize extraction. The concentration of compute in five US hyperscalers makes this nearly impossible to prevent. He warns this leads to a collapse of capitalism itself—when AI replaces all jobs, there's no one left to buy the products those jobs produced. He sees a theoretical way out through abundance thinking but believes society isn't ready for it yet.

AI frontier labs will inevitably vertically integrate to capture all economic value, and the concentration of compute in a handful of hyperscalers means there's no realistic way to prevent the hollowing out of human economic participation.
  • 8

    The AI application layer will be worthless. The reason isn't that it's going to be commoditized, it's that this will be the first place the model makers will come for in their hunt for verticality.

  • 8

    The only way to get growth for yourself is to take a bigger share. First from your users, then from your business partners, then from your employees. You start eating yourself.

  • 7

    The core limiting factor of most industries in America is intelligence. Think about what value you think you add and why your employer sees it worth it to give you some of the profits. It's probably not your muscle power.

  • 7

    After AI takes all the jobs, what exactly happens? How many of those jobs no longer exist now that AI took all the jobs that paid the people to buy the stuff that those jobs produced?

  • 7

    This is like your body consuming its muscle to stay alive, and pretty soon after that, you die.

  • 8

    I think there is a world market for maybe five computers. IBM was just early.

  • 5

    There is a way out of this, but the world isn't ready for it yet. Way too much 0 sum thinking still dominates.

  • 7

    The demoralization is just beginning.

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