America lost the Mandate of Heaven

AI & MLEconomicsSocietyPhilosophy

George Hotz argues that America has lost its moral legitimacy ('Mandate of Heaven') because its economic and technological gains no longer benefit ordinary Americans. He traces how outsourcing destroyed American labor's bargaining power, criticizes tariffs as a 'loser mentality' fix, and lambasts NVIDIA export controls as self-sabotaging. He dismisses AGI doomerism as uniquely American cope rooted in an inability to organize people effectively, and contrasts America's dysfunction with what he sees as a functional society in Hong Kong. His conclusion is that rooting for America to 'win AI' currently means rooting for job loss at home and military bullying abroad.

America's AI and economic strategy has decoupled national 'winning' from the wellbeing of its people, making technological supremacy a hollow goal that serves corporations and military power rather than citizens.
  • 8

    This line of 'oh they get cheap stuff' is hardcore cope, I can't believe those who seriously try and say America's value is in consuming.

  • 5

    Your value is in production, and your value is in providing a good society for your fellow countrymen.

  • 7

    Sorry, we don't want to win globally, please build an alternative.

  • 7

    It's interesting how America believes in these apocalyptic AI narratives while China doesn't. And I think the reason comes back to the view of people.

  • 6

    A human is about 20 petaflops. All of this installed compute is only about a million people.

  • 7

    There is no magical 'step change' for AGI. With 8 billion humans in the world, that's still 13 doublings for machines to catch up.

  • 4

    The point of a society is the flourishing of its inhabitants.

  • 7

    How can anyone root for America to win AI? In its current incarnation, it means job loss for Americans and more bullying on the world stage.

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